[aclug-L] Re: ACLUG mailing list future

["Michael Holmes" <aerospaced@xxxxxxx>]

How about a test try?  See what happens?

Mike

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Subject: [aclug-L] Re: ACLUG mailing list future

I'm tending toward google, but my reasons are entirely pragmatic. I have 7
different email addresses that collapse into my gMail account. I can read
mail wherever I am thanks to a smartphone and web interface. I've looked in
my spam folder to find something that may not have gotten through exactly
twice. Those things in mind, I have no idea how the Google Groups interface
would work for our lists, but I can't think it would be so bad that it was
unusable.
ja

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:35 PM, John Goerzen <jgoerzen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> The mailing list manager I use to host these lists, Ecartis, has been
> abandoned upstream for a few years and was removed from Debian back in
> May.  This has prompted me to do some evaluation of alternatives.
>
> The two main options that I'm considering are Google Groups and Mailman.
>  Mailman would run on my server; Google Groups is obviously a Google
> service.
>
> Some pluses and minuses of each:
>
> Google Groups:
>
> * Plus: Has an integrated web forum for those that prefer that
>
> * Plus: Nice, searchable, integrated archives
>
> * Plus: Can easily designate whomever we'd like to be full admins
>
> * Minus: At Google's mercy regarding UI changes
>
> * Minus: At Google's mercy to keep the service up
>
> * Minus: Has the basic features, but not many advanced ones.  Probably
> enough for us though.
>
> * Minus: No programmatic interface to the archives; would maintain the
> gmane.org mirror to keep mbox archives available.
>
> Mailman:
>
> * Plus: Exceptionally configurable.
>
> * Minus: Built in archives are essentially what's on lists.complete.org
> now.  In other words, crappy.  Would move archives to gmane.org (and
> possibly also to an archive-only Google Group)
>
> * Minus: No posting from the web
>
> * Minus: Rely on me to keep the service up.
>
> * Plus: Archives available (to me) in mbox format for transitions.
>
> My initial inclination is to suggest Google Groups, but the point of
> this message is to gather feedback.  In either case, subscriber lists
> could be migrated, and the @aclug.org addresses could forward to the new
> place for a time.
>
> The second question relates to which ACLUG lists to keep.  There are 7
> ACLUG lists visible at lists.complete.org right now.  Of those, there
> are only two that have seen posts this year: this one and announce, and
> announce hasn't see a post since January.  My suggestion would be to
> move only this list over, unless people intend to start using announce
> again.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -- John
>
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