[aclug-L] Re: ACLUG mailing list future

[Dale W Hodge <dwh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Considering the low volume of messages, either solution would work. The 
real question though is which one handles spam the best. The amount of 
spam that hits moderation has been staggering lately. While the users 
never see it, somebody (me) has to deal with it.  Assuming Google groups 
is up to the task, I'd probably prefer it.

As for the lists, at this point I see no reason to keep anything other 
than the discussion list.

--Dale

John Goerzen wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> The mailing list manager I use to host these lists, Ecartis, has been
> abandoned upstream for a few years and was removed from Debian back in
> May.  This has prompted me to do some evaluation of alternatives.
> 
> The two main options that I'm considering are Google Groups and Mailman.
>  Mailman would run on my server; Google Groups is obviously a Google
> service.
> 
> Some pluses and minuses of each:
> 
> Google Groups:
> 
> * Plus: Has an integrated web forum for those that prefer that
> 
> * Plus: Nice, searchable, integrated archives
> 
> * Plus: Can easily designate whomever we'd like to be full admins
> 
> * Minus: At Google's mercy regarding UI changes
> 
> * Minus: At Google's mercy to keep the service up
> 
> * Minus: Has the basic features, but not many advanced ones.  Probably
> enough for us though.
> 
> * Minus: No programmatic interface to the archives; would maintain the
> gmane.org mirror to keep mbox archives available.
> 
> Mailman:
> 
> * Plus: Exceptionally configurable.
> 
> * Minus: Built in archives are essentially what's on lists.complete.org
> now.  In other words, crappy.  Would move archives to gmane.org (and
> possibly also to an archive-only Google Group)
> 
> * Minus: No posting from the web
> 
> * Minus: Rely on me to keep the service up.
> 
> * Plus: Archives available (to me) in mbox format for transitions.
> 
> My initial inclination is to suggest Google Groups, but the point of
> this message is to gather feedback.  In either case, subscriber lists
> could be migrated, and the @aclug.org addresses could forward to the new
> place for a time.
> 
> The second question relates to which ACLUG lists to keep.  There are 7
> ACLUG lists visible at lists.complete.org right now.  Of those, there
> are only two that have seen posts this year: this one and announce, and
> announce hasn't see a post since January.  My suggestion would be to
> move only this list over, unless people intend to start using announce
> again.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> -- John
> 
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