[aclug-L] Re: SuSE vs. Mandrake

[Jeremy Johnstone <jsjohnst@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Your reason against Mandrake is exactly my reason for using it, up to
date software (or bleeding edge as some call it). Speaking of
Lindows.com, if anyone wants the POS I will donate it to them.

/me had to get it to see what it was like, hated every minute of it.

Jeremy



On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 01:31, gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman) wrote:
> > I have used Debian fairly extensively on servers and such, but (for me at
> > least) it doesn't seem to be a worthwhile desktop distro.  Mandrake seems
> to
> > have everything gui'd that I use, which can be a great time saver, (and
> > waster) and appearance is important to me on the desktop.  urpmi can use
> > external sources (like the PLF and tex repositorys) so you can do similar
> to
> > apt-get.
> 
> there are also things like apt-rpm that are praised pretty heavily in some
> circles... no experience myself...
> 
> > I would definately agree with Jesse on the closedness of SuSE, but
> > with Mandrake in chapter 11, what's a Penguinisto to do?
> 
> well, at least they're coming out w/ a 9.2 (if they haven't already... been
> behind in keeping up) to replace their pathetic excuse for a release, deemed
> MDK9.1...  don't think they're completely out of the picture just yet...
> 
> meanwhile, as i said, i'm trying out gentoo...  been an interesting venture
> so far...  got the system installed, emerged the gaming-optimized kernel
> source and recompiled (with P4 opt flags, of course!) and still working on
> getting grub to work (well, it sort of does, it's just not "pretty" like i
> want it to be yet :P)...  lots of things reminiscent of slack and freebsd,
> but at the same time, it's not nearly as hard (so far) as the webpage seems
> (to me) to make it out to be...  kinda fun, especially if you're wanting to
> really get to know the in's and out's of your system....  talkabout being in
> full control... i'm doing a stage 3 build, which means most of the hardcore
> system libs are already compiled for you... if you start w/ stage 1,
> EVERYTHING is compiled from scratch w/ your opt flags... great if you
> really, really, really need that extra bit of speed, but good god... a
> friend had his stage 1 install take well over a week!
> 
> and just to throw out some more opinions, here's my reasons for not choosing
> one of the "major" distros:
> 
> 1.) Red Hat - i use it every single day and know it backwards and forwards
> (thanks to our distro being based on it)...  too boring... and TOO slow...
> missing support for many multimedia codecs (tho', if anyone's interested, i
> did write a PyGTK app that downloads/installs mp3, dvd, etc codecs w/ a
> click of the mouse... http://getcodecs.sourceforge.net ... should work on
> most RPM-based distros, but has only been tested on CPUBuilders OS)
> 
> 2.) SuSE - still have a bad taste in my mouth from the first time i tried it
> (7.2? 7.3?)...  too closed for my taste...  interesting side-note: according
> to the SuSE employees, it's pronounced soos-uh
> 
> 3.) MDK - too cutting edge...  lacks a lot of testing... and has anyone
> looked at their naming schemes for RPMs?  (especially libraries) geez...
> looks to me like a bad hack on a bad hack (RH)...  used to be my desktop OS
> of choice, but got frustrated with the 9.1 release...
> 
> 4.) Debian - just don't like it...  seems like it would make a good server
> OS, but for me it wouldn't make a great desktop OS...  some great features,
> but still...
> 
> 5.) Caldera - can you say SCO? ;)
> 
> 6.) Xandros/Corel/Lindows/etc - WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too closed...  hell if i'm
> gonna PAY to install GPL software!
> 
> 7.) Slack - dunno, i should really try out 9... heard it's pretty
> impressive...
> 
> 8.) *BSD - unfortunately i haven't found any *BSD support for AC3
> passthrough on my SBLive card, which totally defats the purpose of this
> machine (aka dvd player)
> 
> anyway, just my few bucks of input... would be interested to hear why others
> chose / didn't choose any distro(s)
> 
> gLaNDix
> 
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