[aclug-L] Re: FW: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, the "Joel 'Espy' Klecker" release

["drbert" <drbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

i use storm -- there rain release -- it was free with
a maximum linux magazine.

storm is debian, but not debian gnu/linux

soon i plan to switch from storm debian to
debian gnu/linux

the reason i'm changing has mostly to do with
a friend recently showing me how to get from
the 2.1 dist that came with goerzen/othman's book
to potato -- here's how he explained . . .

First edit /etc/apt/sources.list to these specifications ,
Second run "apt-get update" from the command
line, and Lastly run "apt-get dist-upgrade".
(sorry, i left the spec's out)

anyway, greg, i've been running a mandrake 6.1 box
for a while and didn't like the 7.0 upgrade so i just
read up on how other upgrades were going and elected
to avoid that headache -- i recently got a 7.1 mandrake
release and i've heard it's better . . .

everything i've read about the deb gnu/linux 2.2 is
good -- there's a great link on debian.org about updating

all that and a dime and you can get a glob of super bubble . . .

----- Original Message -----
From: Nate Bargmann <n0nb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <discussion@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 6:38 AM
Subject: [aclug-L] Re: FW: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, the "Joel 'Espy' Klecker"
release


> On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 10:15:41PM -0500, Greg House wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Um...what planet was the person that wrote THIS from? I've heard nothing
but
> > nightmare stories about people trying to upgrade Debian. I think I could
like
> > Debian if they've made dselect easier to deal with (maybe added some
"typical
> > installation" type preset packages so you don't have to select...and
configure
> > every little thing). How's it looking in that dept these days? I could
care
> > less about a glitzy graphical install wizard thing like RedHat &
Mandrake are
> > trying to do, I just want something that can be set up and configured
quickly
> > and easily without having a 2 week learning curve on how to use the
package
> > manager.
>
> Hmmm.
>
> I've performed three upgrades from Debian 2.1 to Debian 2.2 frozen, IOW, a
> few months back.  I had to change /etc/apt/sources.list to point toward
> potato rather than stable.  I did apt-get update and then apt-get
> dist-upgrade, and didn't touch dselect at all.  All three went off without
> a hitch and only had a couple of minor issues with a couple of packages.
> Over all I am very impressed with Debian's capability to upgrade the
entire
> system from release to release.  I do know that with Slackware such
> was not possible.  One thing that did surprise me was that doing a
> dist-upgrade did not upgrade the kernel.  That exercise is left to the
> administrator to do manually and for many good reasons.
>
> > Not saying any of the other distros are much better. I upgraded Mandrake
6.2
> > to 7.0 on my main home machine awhile back and it totally broke my
networking
> > (both local AND ppp). I'm afraid to upgrade to 7.1, I don't have time to
try
> > and fix it...
>
> Essentially, upgrading *any* operating system is fraught with risk.  MS
> Windows does little more than delete most everything and the re-install
> everything requiring several reboots.  With Debian I found it totally
> amazing that everything but the kernel is upgraded in place without any
> reboot required.  This includes such system dependent things as initd
> and glibc.  Overall, Debian is the best experience in an OS I've ever had.
> I came from Slackware and find Debian to be much more complete.  At least
> I have no trouble with such things as backspace vs. delete in X anymore.
> For me Debian has allowed me to concentrate on getting things done, not
> fooling with getting things working.
>
> I will admit, dselect's keystrokes are somewhat different than any program
> I use, but I spent about an hour with the Debian User's Guide on the 'net
> and played with dselect for a few minutes and was selecting stuff in no
> time at all.  dselect is the first package manager I've ever used
> and I really like the visual display of packages affected by dependency
> resolution.  Is dselect perfect?  No, but I've watched it improve over
> the past year.
>
> If graphical installs and a graphical version of dselect are your desire,
> check out Stormix (http://www.stormix.com).  It is essentially Debian 2.2
> with many add-ons.  According to the Debian-user list traffic, it is
> very well done and it can be upgraded either from the Debian archive or
> Stormix's archive.  At least it received good reviews by those on the
> list, I have not tried it.
>
> HTH,
>
> - Nate >>
>
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