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Subject: [gopher] Re: Jugtail formerly Jughead
From: JumpJet Mailbox <jumpjetinfo@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:22:32 -0700 (PDT)
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How about a port to WIndows?  The Windows platform has never had a Gopher 
search engine (or crawler) of any sort, so JumpJet for example is unable to 
index itself.  
  
Chris <chris@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  
Hi all, 
I hope everyone had a great Easter.
First I saw in the archives of emails at quux that what I am announcing already 
was by Benn Newman some time ago. I never saw it neither did a few others so, 
I'll mention it again.
(thanks Benn btw)

I would like to announce Jugtail, some of you have no doubt noticed it on:
http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Gopher/

It is the GPL'd release of Jughead (name changed for existing trademark issues).
Personally I, for many reasons, am quite happy to see this. Back in 04 when I 
was trying to use Jughead to do things it wasn't really designed to do I found 
Mr Jone's new email address. In addition to asking a few questions and sending 
him back his original email questionnaire from Jughead I mentioned maybe 
porting to FreeBSD and perhaps even GPL.
He was suprised to find people still used gopher and surely didn't expect to 
get his questionnaire back so many years later :)
It was a short time after that I had the pleasure of emailing back and forth a 
bit with RMS and metioned to him that I thought it would be neat if Jughead was 
a part of the group of GPL'd software.
Historically important, made back when gopher was "it" and further under the 
license of The University of Utah, which isnt a free software but came close, 
involving Archie Comics as well, a large corporate entity.
After all if one considered Archie, Jughead and Veronica, the search engine 
equivalents of the first stone wheels, then we ought to set a few next to a new 
Hoosier race tire yes? :)
To my suprise Mr Stallman ask for Jonzys email address and just like that 
emailed him (I was delighted to be cc'd). How neat, for here was two people I 
really do consider hero's of mine discussing things like emacs and gcc and 
jughead and all :)
As it was, it took a long time and alot of work, waiting and effort by people 
working behind the scenes, all of us unaware (myself included as my only 
involvment was to occasionally pester and ask if it was "done yet?"). And now 
its preserved and free and now no matter what for ever salvaged from being 
lost. I think thats just great!

Thanks Jonzy!
Thanks Mr Stallman!

Veronica is next?
Perhaps we could in addition to saving such software as this, move to get it 
under the GPL. This way it would be further saved, I am refering to all the 
wonderful old software we collect.

Happy Gophering!
Orintz
gopher://hal3000.cx

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