[Freeciv] [Fwd: eternal wonders,]

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To:	Nicolas Brunel <brunel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject:	Re: [Freeciv] eternal wonders,
From:	ghod <ghod@xxxxxxxxx>
Date:	Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:06:41 -0400

I think not...
People still visit Egypt to see the Pyramids.. so ALL the effects are not
realized everywhere.
I agree that a percentage should be allowed to others but NEVER 100%.. other
wise why bother.
maybe 80% of max.. same with other wonders..
There are several civilizations that do not under stand woman's suffrage as of
yet.. so MAYBE.. there should be a research limit on each as well.
I.E. you don't begin to gain woman's suffrage until you gain that tech.
same with Pyramids..
I.E... if I see you have started researching Pyramids.. I would not bother
with that tech.. BUT if I knew I would GAIN from it's effects even after you
built it .. I WOULD.
So some tech research is forced for the effect to even begin to start.
Same with JC Bachs and the like.. of course some creative programming will be
needed in order for the effects to be something under 100%. what is 10-90% of
one happy person :) ETC. ETC.. same with Pyramids.. which will be easier. what
is 20% of 50% :) or 30% etc....
all these numbers will need to be worked out.. but the idea is valid.


AGAIN 100% without the wonder should NOT be achievable.
90% max. I would say.. or there is no VALID reason to build them.
after a few turns the gains are negative for just the reason you built it.
you used all the resources to build it (I.E. pyramids) while the other person
built mil units.. NOT! he takes your city with the 10 units he built while you
wasted your resources on the wonder Also I would say something like 2-4% per
turn would be better.. 10 per is WAY too fast. make the effect long lasting as
it takes alot to even build it. 600 production on some wonders can build
atleast 10 GOOD units! I would rather eliminate you given the choice :)


Nicolas Brunel wrote:

> Hello,
>
>    some wonders as pyramids or Michel Angelo chapel are really powerfull.
> With J.C Bach cathedral, your republic will grow very fast. These wonders
> representent excellence in one domain. In every day life when someone
> discover a new knowledge , this new knowledge spread all over the world.
> The same thing can be done for ethernal wonders.  Once an ethernal wonder
> is build, each player will have information about this wonder. At each
> turn, more knowledges about this wonder will be available. Spy can also
> speed up the gathering of information.
>
> Example :
>
>    pyramids needs 200 shields to be build.
>    Once the pyramids are build, each turn, every player will receive 10
> points of knowledge about the pyramids. These 10 points may be withdrawn
> from the research points. If a diplomat manage to steal information, 30
> additionnal points of knowledge are added. So, 20 turns after the pyramids
> were build, the  effect of the pyramids will be available for everyone.
> ( The 10 points can be 20 for a 400 shield wonder and 30 for a 600 shield
>   wonder. )
>
> A rule like this one can help to balance the game.
>
> Bye,
>
> Nicolas

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