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To: Jan Tisje <tisje@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: freeciv@xxxxxxxxxxx, ANDREW SCHULMAN <SCHULMAN.ANDREW@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Freeciv] freeciv beats Civ 2!
From: Stephen Hodge <stephenh@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 00:03:16 +1000

Jan Tisje wrote:
> NO!
> They all have advantages and disadvantages...
> >Hello all.  Last year I used to play freeciv a lot and contribute to this 
> >list.
> >Now (to my sorrow) I've moved from unix to PC.  Instead of trying to play
> >freeciv for Win through an X server (very slow), I decided to try the Real 
> >Game.
> So I bought Civ 2 for $20.  I'd never played it before, but I figured it would
> >be the gold standard which freeciv was trying to meet.  But guess what: 
> >freeciv
> >is better!  Here are some of the ways:
> Like all commercial games, there are some bugs left in the final release.
> I did never find bug fixes for civ2 in web.

I did. IIRC they are fairly easy to find on the microprose web site
( The Civ2 patches where pretty good. As well as bug
fixes they also added the odd feature such as city radius if you have the
grid on.

> >- the "goto" command in Civ 2 is so poor as to be useless.

I never use goto in Civ2.

> >- the view in Civ 2 is tilted 45 degrees with respect to the grid.
> You have to play a little bit, then you' ll learn it. I think it is better.
> Ok, I sometimes losed the road, too. ;-)

Yeah, you have to get used to it. I find the grid is very useful when
placing cities, but generally I have it off these days - looks nicer and I
no longer need it to move in a straight line. It did trip me up a few times
when I first started though. For FreeCiv I'd like to see both views.

> - [...] long rows of symbols convey less information than a simple number.
> When you want to SELL a game, it has to LOOK very good (better than freeciv)
> ;-)

Nothing wrong with both approaches together. I find I don't really need to
know exact numbers often when playing.

Steve Hodge

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