[Freeciv-Dev] SV: Re: Wrong location for "Jokkmokk" in misc_cities.ruleset

["Erik Sigra" <sigra@xxxxxxx>]

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From: Mathias Hasselmann <Mathias.Hasselmann@xxxxxx>
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Subject: [Freeciv-Dev] Re: Wrong location for "Jokkmokk" in misc_cities.ruleset


> Erik Sigra wrote:
> 
> > download: freeciv-cvs-Jul-04
> > Jokkmokk is listed as a city in 'Iceland'. But Jokkmokk is a place in Sweden
> > (a little bit north of the northern polar circle). Could someone with write
> > permission check this out and change it?
> 
> I do not know if this is true... But sometimes it happens that you find
> places
> with the same name in two countries.
> 
> So there is a Bergen in Norway but also in Northern Germany...
> Or think about the Amerikan cities which have European names...
> 
> Have you verified that there is no Jokkmokk in Iceland?
> 
> Ciao
> Mathias
> 
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> 
Of course I don't know about every little place in Iceland, but I have checked 
in 2 atlases:
* Nationalencyklopedins Världsatlas, Bokförlaget Bra Böcker
* Der Neue Atlas Der Welt, RV Verlag
The only Jokkmokk they show is the swedish Jokkmokk at 19.9° east, 66.6 °north.
The two germanic languages norvegian and german are very closely related, so it 
is likely that some city names are equal between the two countries (I found 
Bergen in North Dakota, Bayern, Niedersachsen, Norge, Noordholland, 
Nordbrabant, ...). But Jokkmokk is a samish word and there are no samish cities 
in Iceland. Samish is not even and indo-european language. So there is little 
possibility to find a place called Jokkmokk on Iceland.
I also searched for Jokkmokk on www.google.com. I looked through the first ~50 
hits and they were all about the swedish Jokkmokk. I found a page 
(http://www.home.foni.net/~nils1/gebiete/stadt/jokkmokk.htm) that says Jokkmokk 
is the capital of the samish and that the word means "Land an der Bachbiegung" 
(land by the streambend) in samish.

So I still insist on a chage. I can't be more sure. Here is the link to the 
source code: 
http://www.freeciv.org/lxr/source/data/nation/misc_cities.ruleset#L255