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To: Gregory Berkolaiko <Gregory.Berkolaiko@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, aliaga <aliaga@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: freeciv-data@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [freeciv-data] Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Re: Alternative nation dialog
From: Raahul Kumar <raahul_da_man@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:27:31 -0800 (PST)
Reply-to: freeciv-data@xxxxxxxxxxx

I'm moving this discussion to freeciv-data.

--- Gregory Berkolaiko <Gregory.Berkolaiko@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This discussion pretty idiotic, so I feel I can contribute.
> Just like to point out some historical inaccuracies:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, aliaga wrote:
> > At 28-02-02 07:33 -0800, Raahul wrote:
> > >Let me explain my motivations. As I said before, I want distinct civs like
> > >in Civ 3. Each civ should have its own advantages, and that is simply not
> > >compatible with 100 civs. Therefore, the list should be pruned.
> > 
> > >Lithuania? Where the hell is it on the map?
> It might be small now but there was time when it (together with Poland) 
> dominated whole of Ukraine, Belorussia (you can very well see them on the 
> map, can't you?) and big part of what is modern Germany.

They're still not a notable civ. Like I said, celebrity civs only. A civ that
basically anyone knows their major achievements. Can you tell me any notable
achievement of Lithuania? And by the way, I'm just using Lithuania as an

I don't really care you can substitute any obscure civ name in here.

> Every country has its own claim to fame, and if it's not very prominent, 
> than FreeCiv gives the players from this country an opportunity to boost 
> their ego.  That's why I play Scots now ;)

I don't really care what nation you play. I'd just like a Civ 3 style situation
where players pick a civ based on real life advantages - For example Egypt, you
get half price on buidling the pyramids and get war chariots. 16 distinct civs
are far better than 400 identical ones.

> > 
> > >Indians, ;-). African elephants cannot be tamed. All war elephants are
> > >asian elephants. Indians were also the first with the battlefield use of
> > 
> Excuse me.  What did Hannibal have in his army then?  Shetland ponies?

Quite possibly. Hannibal's elephants were Asian elephants. Apparently, African
elephants cannot be tamed. And regardless, Indians were certainly the first to
use elephants in war.

If you want to check for yourself. Interestingly, I picked up this titbit
when discussing the building of the pyramids. I always claimed the egyptians
would have had a much easier time of it than modern people believe. My view was
that African elephants would be able to move those huge stone blocks. Little
I know that apparently African mammals are very hard to tame.

Check out Guns, germs and steel for the reasons why.
> But I wish you could stop revising history and give me the buggy savegame.

OK ;).

> G.

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