[freeciv-data] Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Re: patch catalan.ruleset

[Reinier Post <rp@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 09:42:38PM +0100, Markus wrote:
> Dear Miguel,
> 
> I was happy to see someone working at the catalan.ruleset about two weeks
> ago, whose original author was - as it happens - I myself. 

Very interesting discussion, thank you!

> So far for the cities, let us now turn to the clergy. An archbishop has, by
> definition, power over his subordinate clergy only (and the laity, but only in
> spiritual matters). 

At least one exception must be known to both of you: Andorra used to be
ruled (or still is?) by the Catalan bishop of the nearby town of La Seu
de Urgell (if I'm spelling that correctly).  But Andorra is not a Freeciv
nation - finding enough city names would be a challenge :)

> In the European history yet, especially in Italy and late medieval
> Germany, one often finds that bishops ruled at the same time as dukes/earls
> over impressive territories. Not because they were bishops, but because they
> were dukes/earls.
>
> Concluding from that I would like to point out that secular
> power was only attributed to a bishop because of his additional titles.

I do not think you are correct.  Until 1870, the pope ruled the
Vatican state by virtue of being the pope, not as a nobleman.

Also, I don't find your argument for listing the Grand Inquisitor as a
nation's ruler convincing.  He never held political power over a nation.

Doesn't Catalunya have a governor?  Why don't you just use that title?

[I'm moving discussion of this to freeciv-data where it belongs.]

-- 
Reinier