[freeciv-data] Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Re: patch catalan.ruleset

["Miguel Farah F." <miguel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Reinier Post dijo/said:
>
>On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 09:42:38PM +0100, Markus wrote:
>> Dear Miguel,
>> 
>> I was happy to see someone working at the catalan.ruleset about two weeks
>> ago, whose original author was - as it happens - I myself. 
>
>Very interesting discussion, thank you!

You're welcome.

>> So far for the cities, let us now turn to the clergy. An archbishop has, by
>> definition, power over his subordinate clergy only (and the laity, but only 
>> in
>> spiritual matters). 
>
>At least one exception must be known to both of you: Andorra used to be
>ruled (or still is?) by the Catalan bishop of the nearby town of La Seu
>de Urgell (if I'm spelling that correctly).  But Andorra is not a Freeciv
>nation - finding enough city names would be a challenge :)

Not exactly. Andorra is co-governed by the bishop and the president of
France (who delegates that power to the
[whatever-it's-called-civilian-authority] of the Departament dus
Pyrenees Orientalles [sp?]), who "inherited" this power from the King.

And... Andorra has exactly one city and four towns/villages - hell, the
only states with a smaller city list are the city-states of Vatican,
Monaco and the like.




>> In the European history yet, especially in Italy and late medieval
>> Germany, one often finds that bishops ruled at the same time as dukes/earls
>> over impressive territories. Not because they were bishops, but because they
>> were dukes/earls.
>>
>> Concluding from that I would like to point out that secular
>> power was only attributed to a bishop because of his additional titles.
>
>I do not think you are correct.  Until 1870, the pope ruled the
>Vatican state by virtue of being the pope, not as a nobleman.
>
>Also, I don't find your argument for listing the Grand Inquisitor as a
>nation's ruler convincing.  He never held political power over a nation.
>
>Doesn't Catalunya have a governor?  Why don't you just use that title?

IMHO, it wouldn't reflect the difference between a democracy and
fundamentalism.


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