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To: Raimar Falke <rf13@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: freeciv-ai@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [freeciv-ai] Re: definitely last version of active diplomats patch
From: "Per I. Mathisen" <per@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:01:09 +0000 (GMT)

On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Raimar Falke wrote:
> > > Can you please describe how the AI uses diplomats (which functions are
> > > called in which order and do which tasks)? Can you also write down the
> > > limitations and assumptions?
> Not to me but write an entry in HACKING or

Diplomats are not special. They are treated just like any other unit by
the AI. I can write a text on this in README.AI once I've cleaned up the
use of roles and activities.

> > It can't be, since city_incite_cost() just updates
> > pcity->incite_revolt_cost, and the incite bonus is dependent on who does
> > the inciting. IMHO, city_incite_cost() should be called once for every
> > city at turn start, so we don't need to everywhere else before
> > pcity->incite_revolt_cost is used.
> So why don't we remove pcity->incite_revolt_cost and add a pplayer arg
> to city_incite_cost?

That would be useful. I can have a look at it, but I don't think that is
an issue that needs to be fixed before the diplomats patch hits cvs. (Then
the patch that you complain is big will get even bigger!)

> > > Compare incite_cost against INCITE_IMPOSSIBLE_COST.
> >
> > I'd rather assert that. Since we should check all possible reason why we
> > can't incite here. If we missed one reason, we should fix it.
> And exactly this the reason why the CMA dump core if the results
> doesn't match.

Good point. I won't assert that.

> > > What is the problem? Updating the cached value every turn is enough.
> > >
> > > > +  gain_incite *= SHIELD_WEIGHTING; /* cost to take city otherwise */
> I understood the previous lines but not this multiplication with
> SHIELD_WEIGHTING and the comment.

We assume that the more valuable the city, the better it is defended
against conventional attacks...

I know, that is a laughable generalisation, and it makes us not desire
small, cheap cities that can be bribed for a bargain, but as I've said
over and over, making a good incite algorithm is very hard and can and
should be done properly later.


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