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Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Hardware vs. software RAID, etc
From: "John Alexander" <johnalexander@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:43:34 -0600
Reply-to: discussion@xxxxxxxxx

That sounds right, from the last time I investigated the proposition, the
kernel had to exist on a non-raid partition, and had to be compiled to
support raid, or, you could have your kernel and modules on the non-raid
partition, then load the raid support as a module. Most of the kernels that
I've been working with lately, however, appear to support raid out of the
box. I have to say appear, because I haven't really tried to use it, check
back with me in a couple of weeks.

ja

-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:discussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jonathan Hall
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:50 PM
To: discussion@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Hardware vs. software RAID, etc



There is a Root-RAID-HOWTO (or something by a similar name), which suggests
it's possible to boot from a software raid root partition (which may not
apply to a /boot partition, however).

I've yet to read it... so I don't know the details.


On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 12:25:46PM -0600, Ryan Hunt wrote:
>
> CPBK is rather fast, I used it to mirror 2 40gb harddrives and once the
> inital mirroring was in place it only took a min or two for it to run
every
> day...
>
> I dont know much about software-raid but I do know you need at least a
boot
> partition that is not raided for it to work
>
> -Ryan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Hall" <jonhall@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <discussion@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:22 PM
> Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Hardware vs. software RAID, etc
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 10:07:45PM -0600, Ryan Hunt wrote:
> > >
> > > I will assume, 2 drives = Raid1 and we know raid1 is mirroring
> > >
> > > If all you want is mirroring then I wouldent bother with an IDE Raid
> > > Controller (YUK!) I think a software raid would be fine for this
> > > instance..
> >
> > How difficult is it to configure Linux to boot from a software raid
> device?
> > Or would I need to set up a smallish partition at the beginning of the
> drive
> > for booting?
> >
> > What is a standard configuration when doing RAID?  Should the entire
> system
> > be run on my 80gb RAID?  Or should I put a smaller drive in the system,
> too,
> > for swap, booting, etc?
> >
> >
> > > Instead of raid you might consider the same path I use for mirroring
> > > harddrives.. search freshmeat for a program called "cpbk"
> > > Its a great little tool that compares directories and updates the
mirror
> > > drive (via mount) with any files that have updated, added, and
deleted..
> >
> > That sounds pretty slow and icky.  Unless it does something to keep
track
> of
> > which files are updated as they are updated, so it doesn't have to scan
> > through the entire filesystem.
> >
> >
> > > The best part is a feature called a trashbin, if a file was deleted
off
> the live
> > > drive when cpbk is ran (i run it via cronjob) istead of deleting the
> > > file off the mirror drive,  it copies it to a trash bin for pierodic
> > > manual deletion or recovery...
> > >
> > > I dont have any expierence with software raid nor IDE raid tho.. to
bad
> > > you cant get him to go SCSI :\
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > :Ryan
> > >
> > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Jonathan Hall wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm building a server that will be using IDE RAID (b/c I can't
> convince the
> > > > owner to use SCSI bleh...)
> > > >
> > > > I'll probably have two 7200rpm 80gb ATA100 drives.  Question is...
> what sort
> > > > of RAID configuration should I use?
> > > >
> > > > Tomshardware suggests that a Promise FastTrak100 TX2 is the fastest
> IDE
> > > > hardware RAID solution (at least of the 3 cards it reviewed).
> > > >
> > > > Is the performance and reliability gained by using hardware RAID
> enough to
> > > > do that instead of Linux's software RAID?
> > > >
> > > > Are there other options I should consider in the same price range?
> Other
> > > > hardware RAID options?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
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