[aclug-L] Re: Shells

["Koji Hayakawa" <sylf00@xxxxxxxxx>]

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> From: discussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:discussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxx]On
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> On Friday 06 April 2001 10:34, Carl wrote:
>
>
> > I would think with 24/7 access becoming more and more common,
> the need for
> > shell access on the ISP would drop.
>
> This is true. Here's a question. I know Cox has a policy against putting
> servers on their network. Does that include setting up telnet/ssh & ftp
> access for your personal use (from elsewhere)?
>
> If they portscan your machine and find port 21 open are they
> gonna slap your
> hand?
>

They kinda did once...
At my friend's house, we have a linux box, and it has telnetd, sshd, ftpd,
and httpd running.  We have this box as a development box for a web site
project we run.  Sometimes, the FTP traffic gets quite heavy.  (Especially
when I have FTP enabled windows text editor at home, and there's a fresh FTP
access whenever I try to open or save a file from my local cache to his
machine.)  Cox once caught this, and they threatened my friend to shut the
service going to his place.  We managed to convince that they were all for
personal use.  (And it really is...  I use RR at home too.  We just happen
to use one box to work on a project together, and FTP is really handy to
have.  We don't have any publicly open services.)  So I guess being careful
with them won't hurt at all.


On the other note....  I like the ever so popular web based mail system.
With yahoo mail service, I can read my e-mail from wherever I have WWW
access (within a reason from my work though), and also use my pop based
e-mail client at home.  I keep my mails on the server for 2 weeks, so I can
refer back to my recent mails on the web a while after my pop client pull
the message.  The only annoying thing is the signature they tuck in as you
see on the bottom of this message.


I really see where people get defensive about the shell accounts.  I love it
myself too.  (So I really appreciate my friend sharing his linux box.)  I
too, like Mr. Pankratz, got into the world of internet through pine and
lynx.  (and telnet BBS)  And I still use utilities like whois, traceroute,
ping, ftp (now switched to ncftp), etc, etc, all command based.  I'm not the
best users of these utilities, but I do appreciate them.  And I kind of
understand longing for such account that you get access to them without
having to set up your own.  Linux installation has gotten really easy
compared to a few years ago, but it's still not the easiest thing in the
world.  (Or else, we wouldn't have any of these linux installation sessions
sponsored by ACLUG, right?)

But time has changed now.  I'm somewhat proficient in both GUI based and
command based utilities related to internet now.  And I like having the
flexibility in myself.


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