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Subject: Re: [aclug-L] Weak Southwind Connection
From: Steven Saner <ssaner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:07:17 -0500
Reply-to: aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx

Carl:

I will probably not be of much help when it comes to diald, as I have
never set it up before. What I can tell you is how SouthWind does PPP
(see my sig). When your modem connects to SouthWind's modem, the
terminal server basicly looks at the first bit of data that you send
to it. If you send a PPP LCP packet, then a ppp server process
starts. If you send anything else, then the terminal server telnets to
onyx so you can log into your shell account. From that point, a ppp
connection is impossible.

This is different than some providers where you have to log in to a
shell account, start a ppp server process, then start ppp on your
end. That is probably what you were trying to do with your DOS program
that you mentioned.

As was mentioned in another post, there is documentation on the aclug
website for setting up a basic ppp connection that will work for
SouthWind connections. As for making daild work with that, ask me
once I have that set up :-)



On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 02:49:41PM -0500, Carl B. Davis wrote:
> Steve, 
> 
> Thanks, that seemed to help as I am sending this now through linux and
> the connection is much more solid.
> 
> I didn't have it yesterday, but today I have been trying to get diald to
> work.  It will dial and connect, but doesn't start PPP on Southwind's
> side.  I had this problem with them before when I was trying to get a
> dos ppp connection.  The log shows all of the messages you would get if
> dialing from a terminal program like procomm.  
> 
> I want to get diald to work with southwind.  Are there any suggested
> connect scripts, or diald.conf file that works with Southwind?  
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Carl
> 
> 
> 
> Steven Saner wrote:
> > 
> > The best init string for your modem that I found is: AT&F&C1&D2
> > 
> > I agree that your log file seems to indicate that you (or your
> > computer) are causing the disconnection. It appears that pppd
> > is receiving a hangup signal. How are you starting the connection? Do
> > you manually enter a command to start the connection, or do you have
> > some automated thing, like diald or whatever, that is supposed to
> > detect the need for a connection and then dial? If you do, perhaps it
> > is closing the connection when it no longer feels one is necessary.
> > 
> > On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:06:53PM -0500, Carl B. Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I have a RH 5.2 system that I am trying to get connected to the
> > > internet.  I have an external Digicom Systems, Inc., Blaster modem,
> > > 56k.  I am using Linux as a gateway for a Windows 95 client.  The system
> > > dials fine into Southwind, but when I start to use it from the client, I
> > > get suddenly disconnected.  This happens every few minutes.  The log
> > > seems to just tell me that it's got a hangup.  The documenation for the
> > > Modem was poor and I don't have a good init dial string.  It's something
> > > very basic like atdt.  Any suggestions on init strings for this or
> > > similar modem connections to Southwind.
> > >
> > > Following is the /var/log/messages relating to the connect & disconnect.
> > >
> > > Also, how should I change my pap-secrets file so it doesn't have world &
> > > group access?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Log Messages:
> > >
> > > May 12 12:17:55 linux pppd[9561]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: abort on (BUSY)
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: abort on (VOICE)
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE)
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: abort on (NO ANSWER)
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: send (ATZ^M)
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: expect (OK)
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: ATZ^M^M
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: OK
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:17:56 linux chat[9562]: send (ATDT,9,265-4638^M)
> > > May 12 12:17:57 linux chat[9562]: expect (CONNECT)
> > > May 12 12:17:57 linux chat[9562]: ^M
> > > May 12 12:18:09 linux named[284]: Cleaned cache of 0 RRs
> > > May 12 12:18:09 linux named[284]: USAGE 926529489 926338689 CPU=0u/0s
> > > CHILDCPU=0u/0s
> > > May 12 12:18:09 linux named[284]: NSTATS 926529489 926338689
> > > May 12 12:18:09 linux named[284]: XSTATS 926529489 926338689 RR=1 RNXD=0
> > > RFwdR=0 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=0 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 SSysQ=1
> > > SAns=0 SFwdQ=0 SDupQ=24690 SErr=0 RQ=0 RIQ=0 RFwdQ=0 RDupQ=0 RTCP=0
> > > SFwdR=0 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=0 SNXD=0
> > > May 12 12:18:21 linux chat[9562]: ATDT,9,265-4638^M^M
> > > May 12 12:18:21 linux chat[9562]: CONNECT
> > > May 12 12:18:21 linux pppd[9561]: Serial connection established.
> > > May 12 12:18:21 linux chat[9562]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:18:21 linux chat[9562]: send ()
> > > May 12 12:18:21 linux chat[9562]: expect (^M)
> > > May 12 12:18:21 linux chat[9562]:  115200^M
> > > May 12 12:18:21 linux chat[9562]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:18:22 linux pppd[9561]: Using interface ppp0
> > > May 12 12:18:22 linux pppd[9561]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
> > > May 12 12:18:22 linux pppd[9561]: Warning - secret file
> > > /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
> > > May 12 12:18:25 linux pppd[9561]: Warning - secret file
> > > /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
> > > May 12 12:18:25 linux pppd[9561]: Remote message:
> > > May 12 12:18:29 linux pppd[9561]: local  IP address 206.53.100.67
> > > May 12 12:18:29 linux pppd[9561]: remote IP address 206.53.100.250
> > > May 12 12:22:31 linux identd[9594]: from: 206.53.103.2 (
> > > onyx.southwind.net ) for: 61070, 25
> > > May 12 12:22:31 linux identd[9594]: Returned: 61070 , 25 : NO-USER
> > > May 12 12:23:01 linux pppd[9561]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> > > May 12 12:23:01 linux pppd[9561]: Modem hangup
> > > May 12 12:23:02 linux pppd[9561]: Connection terminated.
> > > May 12 12:23:02 linux pppd[9561]: Exit.
> > > May 12 12:23:35 linux kernel: lp1 at 0x0378, (polling)
> > > May 12 12:24:35 linux kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully
> > > unregistered
> > > May 12 12:26:07 linux kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the
> > > University of California
> > > May 12 12:26:07 linux kernel: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel
> > > allocation)
> > > May 12 12:26:07 linux kernel: PPP Dynamic channel allocation code
> > > copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
> > > May 12 12:26:07 linux kernel: PPP line discipline registered.
> > > May 12 12:26:07 linux kernel: registered device ppp0
> > > May 12 12:26:07 linux pppd[9640]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: abort on (BUSY)
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: abort on (VOICE)
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE)
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: abort on (NO ANSWER)
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: send (ATZ^M)
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: expect (OK)
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: ATZ^M^M
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: OK
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: send (ATDT,9,265-4638^M)
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: expect (CONNECT)
> > > May 12 12:26:08 linux chat[9641]: ^M
> > > May 12 12:26:32 linux chat[9641]: ATDT,9,265-4638^M^M
> > > May 12 12:26:32 linux pppd[9640]: Serial connection established.
> > > May 12 12:26:32 linux chat[9641]: CONNECT
> > > May 12 12:26:32 linux chat[9641]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:26:32 linux chat[9641]: send ()
> > > May 12 12:26:32 linux chat[9641]: expect (^M)
> > > May 12 12:26:32 linux chat[9641]:  115200^M
> > > May 12 12:26:32 linux chat[9641]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:26:33 linux pppd[9640]: Using interface ppp0
> > > May 12 12:26:33 linux pppd[9640]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
> > > May 12 12:26:33 linux pppd[9640]: Warning - secret file
> > > /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
> > > May 12 12:26:36 linux pppd[9640]: Warning - secret file
> > > /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
> > > May 12 12:26:36 linux pppd[9640]: Remote message:
> > > May 12 12:26:40 linux pppd[9640]: local  IP address 206.53.101.57
> > > May 12 12:26:40 linux pppd[9640]: remote IP address 206.53.101.252
> > > May 12 12:27:49 linux pppd[9640]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> > > May 12 12:27:49 linux pppd[9640]: Modem hangup
> > > May 12 12:27:49 linux pppd[9640]: Connection terminated.
> > > May 12 12:27:49 linux pppd[9640]: Exit.
> > > May 12 12:28:10 linux pppd[9681]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: abort on (BUSY)
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: abort on (VOICE)
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE)
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: abort on (NO ANSWER)
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: send (ATZ^M)
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: expect (OK)
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: ATZ^M^M
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: OK
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:28:11 linux chat[9682]: send (ATDT,9,265-4638^M)
> > > May 12 12:28:12 linux chat[9682]: expect (CONNECT)
> > > May 12 12:28:12 linux chat[9682]: ^M
> > > May 12 12:28:36 linux chat[9682]: ATDT,9,265-4638^M^M
> > > May 12 12:28:36 linux pppd[9681]: Serial connection established.
> > > May 12 12:28:36 linux chat[9682]: CONNECT
> > > May 12 12:28:36 linux chat[9682]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:28:36 linux chat[9682]: send ()
> > > May 12 12:28:36 linux chat[9682]: expect (^M)
> > > May 12 12:28:36 linux chat[9682]:  115200^M
> > > May 12 12:28:36 linux chat[9682]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:28:37 linux pppd[9681]: Using interface ppp0
> > > May 12 12:28:37 linux pppd[9681]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
> > > May 12 12:28:37 linux pppd[9681]: Warning - secret file
> > > /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
> > > May 12 12:28:40 linux pppd[9681]: Warning - secret file
> > > /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
> > > May 12 12:28:40 linux pppd[9681]: Remote message:
> > > May 12 12:28:43 linux pppd[9681]: local  IP address 206.53.100.35
> > > May 12 12:28:43 linux pppd[9681]: remote IP address 206.53.100.250
> > > May 12 12:36:15 linux pppd[9681]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> > > May 12 12:36:15 linux pppd[9681]: Modem hangup
> > > May 12 12:36:15 linux pppd[9681]: Connection terminated.
> > > May 12 12:36:15 linux pppd[9681]: Exit.
> > > May 12 12:37:34 linux pppd[9722]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: abort on (BUSY)
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: abort on (VOICE)
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE)
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: abort on (NO ANSWER)
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: send (ATZ^M)
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: expect (OK)
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: ATZ^M^M
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: OK
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:37:35 linux chat[9723]: send (ATDT,9,265-4638^M)
> > > May 12 12:37:36 linux chat[9723]: expect (CONNECT)
> > > May 12 12:37:36 linux chat[9723]: ^M
> > > May 12 12:37:57 linux chat[9723]: ATDT,9,265-4638^M^M
> > > May 12 12:37:57 linux pppd[9722]: Serial connection established.
> > > May 12 12:37:57 linux chat[9723]: CONNECT
> > > May 12 12:37:57 linux chat[9723]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:37:57 linux chat[9723]: send ()
> > > May 12 12:37:57 linux chat[9723]: expect (^M)
> > > May 12 12:37:57 linux chat[9723]:  115200^M
> > > May 12 12:37:57 linux chat[9723]:  -- got it
> > > May 12 12:37:58 linux pppd[9722]: Using interface ppp0
> > > May 12 12:37:58 linux pppd[9722]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
> > > May 12 12:37:58 linux pppd[9722]: Warning - secret file
> > > /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
> > > May 12 12:38:03 linux pppd[9722]: Warning - secret file
> > > /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
> > > May 12 12:38:03 linux pppd[9722]: Remote message:
> > > May 12 12:38:25 linux pppd[9722]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> > > May 12 12:38:25 linux pppd[9722]: Modem hangup
> > > May 12 12:38:25 linux pppd[9722]: Connection terminated.
> > > May 12 12:38:26 linux pppd[9722]: Exit.
> > > May 12 12:40:06 linux kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully
> > > unregistered
> > 
> > --
> > ==================================================================
> > Steven Saner                            SouthWind Internet Access, Inc.
> > ssaner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx                    Junior Systems Administrator
> > http://www2.southwind.net/~ssaner       support@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >                                         http://www.southwind.net
> >                                         263-7963 Wichita  (800)525-7963
> 
> -- 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
> This posting  is not legal advice nor should it be 
> construed as legal advice.
> 
> Carl B. Davis, Esq.               email:  cdavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Davis & Jack, L.L.C.            Fax:  316-945-2789                    
> 2121 W. Maple                    Voice:  316-945-8251
> Wichita, KS 67213                     Toll Free:  888-745-8251
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-- 
==================================================================
Steven Saner                            SouthWind Internet Access, Inc.
ssaner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx                    Junior Systems Administrator
http://www2.southwind.net/~ssaner       support@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                        http://www.southwind.net
                                        263-7963 Wichita  (800)525-7963


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