[linux-help] Re: Perl Question

["Koji Hayakawa" <sylf@xxxxxxxxx>]

Although PHP is coming up with non-web, stand alone system, it's best if
it's left alone as dynamic html generation tool.

Honestly, I really don't know what's so great about PHP.  After looking into
c, java, perl and bash for cgi type tool, I stumbled into PHP.  PHP was just
easy, and made more sense to me, at that time, than Perl.  So I just stuck
with PHP.  (That was 3 1/2 years ago.  I was very surprised to see how
quickly it gained its popularity...)

I don't believe in arguments like "language of my choice is better than
yours!"  No matter what language you use, you can write secure or unsecure
code.  Good or bad code.  Manageable or spaghetti code.  To me, what's most
important is how comfortable I feel with the environment.  Even if Python
allows me to write clean code much easier than in Perl, it's just not good
enough reason to switch.  Even if Java is the universal language, .... I
don't have use for it, and it just doesn't attract me.

With that said, I can't push anyone into using PHP, just because I use it,
or just because it's popular.  (I just need to convince the people I work in
the same project with :)  If you are comfortable with Perl, then stick with
it.  But I just have to say....  PHP, to me, was very easy language to pick
up.  (Actually, the knowledge I acquired while using PHP helped me writing
cgi scripts in Perl later.)

Koji


> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-help-bounce@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-help-bounce@xxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Lars von dem Ast
>
> All right then, what's so great about PHP? (I don't really know anything
> about it, but to me anything where code is embedded in HTML seems so
> primitive. Total dynamic page generation (as done with CGI) still
> seems the
> sleekest, best way. Or am I missing something? And PHP is yet another
> language to learn! With Java and Perl Web stuff you've got languages that
> can be used in other non-Web situations, too. Does PHP have a stand-alone
> language? Plus how do you scale with PHP or anything that is strictly
> embedded code in HTML? (I'm being curious, not offensive here.)
>
> Lb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Koji Hayakawa" <sylf@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <linux-help@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:51 PM
> Subject: [linux-help] Re: Perl Question
>
>
> >
> > Take this as one of the indicator...
> > http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
> >
> > For one, I use Perl for extranet project I'm involved with.  And Perl is
> not
> > going anywhere in that environment.  (Although I picked PHP for intranet
> at
> > the same place...)
> >
> > Koji
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: linux-help-bounce@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:linux-help-bounce@xxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Lars von dem Ast
> >
> > How is Perl as a Web language environment doing, i.e., mod_perl and CGI?
> > Have things like PHP, JSP, ASP etc. rendered Perl obsolete?
> >
> > Lb
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Koji Hayakawa" <sylf@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > No, not really.  All the basics of perl stuff haven't changed since
perl
> > > 5.004 or so.
> > >
> > > Personally, I would've picked up "Programming Perl", if you are
> > "re"learning
> > > it.  It lasts for a long time as a reference manual, AND it covers
Perl
> > > basic syntax etc.  (But that's just me.)
> > >
> > > Koji
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Subject: [linux-help] Perl Question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to relearn some Perl after a long pause. I've got the
> > > > O'Reilly "Learning Perl" 2nd Edition, but I noticed there's a 3rd
> > > > Edition. Do I need to "upgrade" books? I've got Perl 5.8 on Mandrake
> > 9.0.
> > > >
> > > > Lb

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