[aclug-L] Re: Why Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose

["David Wibowo" <dxwibowo@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Just want to add little note

Basically MS windows OS & Unix like OS is targeted to different user.
MS  Windows is targeted to those who don?t know or little know about 
computer. (the common people)
While Unix is targeted to Those who know computer (educated, most likely 
Computer lover)

When you see that way, Now it make sense why Window make the program so easy 
(and sometimes not  reliable) while Unix more to the fictional (better 
design)

Product like Lindows try to solve the problem (easy yet better design). We 
don?t know yet if this going to success or not.

Unless Linux or Unix product is made easy, The common people will not use 
it. And unless MS Window is improving it will not stopping people switching 
to better OS.

I use both OS. I just try to do my best in the strength of each OS. The 
Lindows is seem appealing to me.

David Wibowo
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From: Ironrose <amccadden@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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To: discussion@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Why Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:38:25 -0600


I found the web site where the article can be found that I had heard
limited info on.  The SSSCA suggests that Linux be banned?  Read the
article and see what conclusions and opinions other ACLUG members
formulate.  ttyl ~Ironrose

http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/200111/200111.htm


Ironrose wrote:
 >
 > Very good responses Jon.  It is VERY easy to support M$, but it isn't
 > easy to support Linux.  I feel like I am sinking and way over my head
 > with some of the people who I have been in contact with.  I don't know
 > how to setup a network or all internet services.  I had help with my
 > setup, sometimes from James and mostly from Jeff.  I like linux a lot
 > and use it a lot, but I don't know enough to support it.
 >
 > If some of you really knew the questions asked and problems presented by
 > NEWBIE customers/consumers, you would realize that the general public
 > ISN'T ready for linux to be on every desktop.  In my humble opinion,
 > linux offers good security for servers and business desktops. M$ has it
 > failings, and it isn't my favorite OS, but its easy for a beginner to
 > use.  It looks like XP might become the best product that M$ has
 > created.  It installs and has drivers for ALMOST all hardware.  Several
 > people have been very happy with it and I am happy for them.  I just
 > don't want to use it on my computers, I can't afford it.  Others who
 > install with older hardware and older programs, have been through their
 > worst nightmare.  No OS is or will be the be-all that ends-all for
 > everyone.  We all have opinions and most of us use them very freely.  I
 > don't want anyone to force me into using a certain product and I am glad
 > that for now we have that freedom.  James G. told me that there is a law
 > being proposed that for computer security, that its proposed plans are
 > to outlaw linux.  I will check to find out more details.  James said
 > that he found this on one of the linux news sites about a week ago.  Has
 > anyone heard anything about this?  ttyl ~Ironrose
 >
 > Jonathan Hall wrote:
 > >
 > > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:21:27PM -0600, jeffrey l koehn wrote:
 > > >
 > > > Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose. So
 > > > sit back and watch it happen.
 > > >
 > > > That's right, Linux will be on every desktop
 > >
 > > I hope not.  Linux on every desktop would be a HUGE consumer headache.
 > >
 > > > and server and you can damn me all to hell
 > > > for saying so, but that is how it will be.
 > > > The all American Dollar rules. What becomes
 > > > a standard is determined by economics
 > > > ( the cost of the product).
 > > > There was a time when you could get Windows 3.1,
 > > > for $30.00 and that is when Micro$oft
 > > > became a standard, it was'nt because of
 > > > superior technology.
 > >
 > > Actually, Microsoft became the standard about 10 years earlier with the
 > > release of MS-DOS.  It was the success of the IBM PC that made 
Microsoft the
 > > standard, not the release of Windows 3.1.
 > >
 > > > The genie (GPL, Linux, Open-Souce) was let out
 > > > of the bottle long time ago and as time passes
 > > > it will consume everything. If you ask me, it
 > > > reached critical mass in 1998. The genie can not
 > > > be put back into the bottle. And so the
 > > > next business/technology model has
 > > > already been determined.
 > > >
 > > > Why?
 > > > Because:
 > > > 1)Lower Cost ( The Linux Kernel doesn't cost anything)
 > >
 > > It doesn't cost anything to obtaion.  To MANTAIN it can still be VERY
 > > expensive.  That's why it's used mostly by "geeks"--b/c they don't have 
to
 > > hire anyone to MANTAIN it for them.
 > >
 > > > 2)Open-source Kernel
 > > > 3)The "GPL, Linux, Open-Source Kernel"
 > > > is the perfect technology foundation
 > > > for Manufacturing and the masses
 > > > because people, businesses, universities,
 > > > governments contribute to it.
 > > > 4) Linux can scale up or down
 > >
 > > Most people don't need an OS to scale.  They need an OS to run on their
 > > consumer-grade PC.  The ability of Linux to run on embeded 
microcontrollers
 > > is irrelevant to them.  Likewise, the ability of Linux to run on 
multiple
 > > parallel high-end servers with SCSI RAID arrays is also irrelevant to 
them.
 > >
 > > > 5) Linux is hardware agnostic
 > > > 6) "Linux, Open-Source" can and
 > > >      will morph into future tecnologies
 > > >      that will benefit all.
 > > >
 > > > If your not using Linux and your
 > > > still using MS windows, you better
 > > > wake up and smell the coffee
 > > > because the world has changed.
 > >
 > > I think most of us on this list are already using (or trying to use) 
Linux.
 > >
 > > And Linux is great.... but it's not the end-all be-all of computer 
operating
 > > systems or anything.
 > >
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