[aclug-L] Re: Monopoly tactics?

["Lee and Chris Weathers" <leenchris@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Can't find the info, so I was obviously mistaken.  The only info I can find
on DSL being faster than 6M is either overseas or a form of DSL other than
ADSL.  Sorry for the bad info.

Leland Weathers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee and Chris Weathers" <leenchris@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <discussion@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 6:41 AM
Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Monopoly tactics?


> I was following links from the swb web site, not sure of the location.
I'll
> see if I can find it again.
>
> Leland Weathers
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Saner" <ssaner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <discussion@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 10:51 PM
> Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Monopoly tactics?
>
>
> > Hmmm... It is advertised that the 1.5 and 6 are the maximums. 384K and
> > 1.5M are the minimums respectively. Where did you get your information?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 10:38:19PM -0500, Lee and Chris Weathers wrote:
> > > Actually the 1.5  and or the 6 is the minimum speed you will get
> (depending
> > > on distance from the central office).  Supposedly you can get up to 6M
> down
> > > on the less expensive and up to 10M on the other.
> > >
> > > Leland Weathers
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Clint A. Brubakken" <cabrubak@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <discussion@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 3:56 PM
> > > Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Monopoly tactics?
> > >
> > >
> > > > John Alexander wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's the funny part:
> > > > > I ordered Business Class DSL today (32 static, 29 usable, thank
you
> very
> > > > > much), got the same promo, which includes free connection
hardware.
> > > > >
> > > > > ja
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > how much is that business DSL? Is it only the 1.5 Max or the 6?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ssaner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > [mailto:ssaner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steven Saner
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 10:36 AM
> > > > > > To: discussion@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Monopoly tactics?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You pretty much have it figured out :-/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 08:57:02AM -0500, Bates, Rod wrote:
> > > > > > > Whoooooa!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Clint Brubakken wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >If you sign up before April 30, and you agree to sign a one
> year
> > > > > > > >contract and use SWBI, installation ($200) and isp service is
> free
> > > > > > > >($10/month)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (and others said things to the same effect.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So as I understand it:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. You need DSL service and ISP service
> > > > > > > 2. It costs somebody to provide ISP service
> > > > > > > 3. There is competition in the ISP business
> > > > > > > 4. SWB is the only game in town for DSL.
> > > > > > > 5. If you take ISP service from SWBI, then SWB will actually
> > > > > > >     charge less for DSL as if you get ISP service from
> Southwind.
> > > > > > >     (same monthly, no installation)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This sounds like a classic monopolistic cross subsidy.
> > > > > > > Cut your prices below your costs (actually prices cut to zero
> > > > > > > for SWBI ISP service) in a businessline where you have
> > > > > > > competition.  Make up your losses from a different line of
> > > > > > > business where you have none.  Southwind has no comparable
> > > > > > > source of revenue they could use to make up comparable
> > > > > > > losses. Do the regulators know about this?  Have I missed
> > > > > > > something?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rodney Bates
> > > > > > >
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> > > > --
> > > > Clint Brubakken
> > > > Developer, Computer Science Services Group, LLC
> > > > President Air Capital Linux Users Group
> > > > Wichita, KS
> > > > cabrubak@xxxxxxx
> > > > ---
> > > > D'oh!  English!  Who needs that?  I'm never going to England.
> > > > Come on, let's smoke.
> > > >
> > > > --Homer Simpson, talking Barney into cutting class
> > > >   The Way We Was
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