[aclug-L] Re: Cool new fan site....hehe

["Jeffrey L. Hansen" <jlhansen@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

As someone who has been trying, in vain, to finish a BS CS since 1981, I
can tell you for certain that companies refuse to even consider the resume
of someone for a programming position when the person has no degree.  I
have experience programming large projects in FORTRAN, Pascal, and VB.
I'm currently working on experience in C.  I have all the schooling I need
for the degree with the exception of a couple of electives and a few GenEd
courses.  I can testify that it's a lost cause to try to convince the
companies that I'm worth a try.  Please don't try to tell me that it
doesn't matter.  I'll likely be stuck in this position for the duration as
a result of not finishing.

Sorry about the divergence from the theme.  This seems to be the thread
for it.

jeff



On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, brinkley j harrell wrote:

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxx 
> >
> >     {snip}
> > 
> > As someone who *does* have a four-year degree (BS in CS), I 
> > don't think it
> > means all that much.  When it comes down to it, you still 
> > learn all the
> > nuts and bolts on your own, and you find that being able to write BNF
> > grammars, draw automata state diagrams, or calculate the 
> > runtime magnitude
> > of an algorithm really isn't all that useful when you're configuring a
> > router.  i.e. it don't take a college degree to learn how to be a
> > Unix/Linux system admin... it just takes hands-on experience 
> > and a group
> > of knowledgable peers.  You learn real system administration 
> > from other
> > administrators, not from a bunch of newbies trying to teach each other
> > what they don't know.  
> >
> >     {snip}
> 
> 
> As someone who writes personnel requirements and hires people, I
> disagree with you strongly about the degree position. Having a BS in
> Computer Science does not make you a literate computer user or
> administrator. It will get you _P_A_I_D_ more!
> 
> Frankly, if you have the professional computer experience and can back
> it up, I could care less what the degree is in.
> 
> --
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> Brinkley Harrell
> Sprint ATD, ION Service Development
> mailto:brinkley.j.harrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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