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Subject: Re: [aclug-L] first plunge
From: jeffrey.hansen@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 18:58:04 -0600
Reply-to: aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx

I think the video card is okay -- it's a matrox millenium II w/4MB.  The
problem is the monitor.  It's a first model Shamrock.  It does 1024x768 @
43 hz interlaced, but I can't get X to cooperate with any settings other
than VGA.

Jeff




phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on 12/20/98 11:19:10 PM

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To:   aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
cc:    (bcc: Jeffrey Hansen/BFTC/Bombardier)
Subject:  Re: [aclug-L] first plunge




what kind of video card is it?
phrostie wrote:
>  weather i can use what you got or not, drop by and i'll see if i can
help.
> i'm still learning the difference between cards.
>
>
> jeffrey.hansen@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> I have an old (circa 1994 or '95) 3com EtherlinkIII ISA bus card.  I
>> believe it's 10baseT and I have two "Lancast" modules to convert to RJ
>> configuration (hooks to the 15 pin D-sub conn).  I'd be willing to trade
>> for some "hands-on" configuration help.  I need to get my workstation up
>> and functional in PPP and graphics.  It currently works in X and in a
>> standalone mode, but I can't get out of VGA, nor can I get dial-up to
work.
>> Waddya think???
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ghouse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on 12/26/98 01:16:20 PM
>>
>> Please respond to aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> To:   aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> cc:    (bcc: Jeffrey Hansen/BFTC/Bombardier)
>> Subject:  Re: [aclug-L] first plunge
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     >the network card on the "new" box is a "smc ultra".
>>     >i remember seeing this one in the list of supported hardware.
>>     >i still need a card for my old box.
>>     >does any one has an old card that i could buy or trade for that
will
>> work with it?
>>     You should check and be sure it's got a 10base2 (BNC) connector on
it
>> before you start buying more parts to go coax.  A lot of the new network
>> cards only have 10baseT (RJ45) and unless you want to replace this card
>> too, you should consider getting the same thing.
>>     If you just have 2 computers, using 10baseT is actually cheaper and
>> simpler, since you only need one cable, no T connectors, no terminators.
>> The RJ45 cables aren't any more expensive then coax. You just have to
>> remember to get the right wiring on the cable (crossover) and you can
plug
>> the ET cards directly together.  On the other hand, If you have more
then 2
>> computers, it'll cost you more since you'll need a hub.  With a hub,
you'd
>> use the straight-thru cables (not crossover).
>>     If you're starting from scratch, you might consider going 100baseT,
>> since the cards aren't that much more expensive any more.  The hub will
be
>> a little more, but the extra speed might be nice.
>>     As far as educating yourself, you should check the Ethernet HOWTO,
the
>> Hardware HOWTO, and the NET-3 HOWTO for information about configuring
>> networking and which hardware is supported. There's also a Network
>> Adminstrator's Guide available from the LDP
>> http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/ldp.html
>>     I was recently shopping for network cables and found a place called
>> ConnectPro which had exceptionally good prices.  The (6') coax cables
that
>> National Computer wanted $10 each cost me $2.25 each from these guys.
>> Likewise, T connectors and terminators were about half or less of Nat
>> Computer's price. If you're going Cat-5 (RJ45), they' also have those
for
>> good prices too.  They're based in CA and have a bunch of other
networking
>> products as well.  http://www.connectpro.com I don't have anything to do
>> with them other then this one order. It was delivered quickly without
any
>> snags.
>>
>>
>>     Have fun!
>>     Greg
>>
>>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
>>
>>      >the network card on the "new" box is a "smc ultra".
>>      >i remember seeing this one in the list of supported hardware.
>>      >i still need a card for my old box.
>>      >does any one has an old card that i could buy or trade for that
will work with it?
>>
>>      You should check and be sure it's got a 10base2 (BNC) connector on
it before you start
>>      buying more parts to go coax.  A lot of the new network cards only
have 10baseT (RJ45)
>>      and unless you want to replace this card too, you should consider
getting the same
>>      thing.
>>
>>      If you just have 2 computers, using 10baseT is actually cheaper and
simpler, since you
>>      only need one cable, no T connectors, no terminators. The RJ45
cables aren't any more
>>      expensive then coax. You just have to remember to get the right
wiring on the cable
>>      (crossover) and you can plug the ET cards directly together.  On
the other hand, If
>>      you have more then 2 computers, it'll cost you more since you'll
need a hub.  With a
>>      hub, you'd use the straight-thru cables (not crossover).
>>
>>      If you're starting from scratch, you might consider going 100baseT,
since the cards
>>      aren't that much more expensive any more.  The hub will be a little
more, but the
>>      extra speed might be nice.
>>
>>      As far as educating yourself, you should check the Ethernet HOWTO,
the Hardware HOWTO,
>>      and the NET-3 HOWTO for information about configuring networking
and which hardware is
>>      supported. There's also a Network Adminstrator's Guide available
from the LDP
>>      http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/ldp.html
>>
>>      I was recently shopping for network cables and found a place called
ConnectPro which
>>      had exceptionally good prices.  The (6') coax cables that National
Computer wanted $10
>>      each cost me $2.25 each from these guys. Likewise, T connectors and
terminators were
>>      about half or less of Nat Computer's price. If you're going Cat-5
(RJ45), they' also
>>      have those for good prices too.  They're based in CA and have a
bunch of other
>>      networking products as well.  http://www.connectpro.com I don't
have anything to do
>>      with them other then this one order. It was delivered quickly
without any snags.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Have fun!
>>
>>      Greg
>>
>
>
> --
> phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
> and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>
>


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phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.



what kind of video card is it?

phrostie wrote:

 weather i can use what you got or not, drop by and i'll see if i can help.
i'm still learning the difference between cards.
 

jeffrey.hansen@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

I have an old (circa 1994 or '95) 3com EtherlinkIII ISA bus card.  I
believe it's 10baseT and I have two "Lancast" modules to convert to RJ
configuration (hooks to the 15 pin D-sub conn).  I'd be willing to trade
for some "hands-on" configuration help.  I need to get my workstation up
and functional in PPP and graphics.  It currently works in X and in a
standalone mode, but I can't get out of VGA, nor can I get dial-up to work.
Waddya think???

Jeff





ghouse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on 12/26/98 01:16:20 PM

Please respond to aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx

To:   aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
cc:    (bcc: Jeffrey Hansen/BFTC/Bombardier)
Subject:  Re: [aclug-L] first plunge




    >the network card on the "new" box is a "smc ultra".
    >i remember seeing this one in the list of supported hardware.
    >i still need a card for my old box.
    >does any one has an old card that i could buy or trade for that will
work with it?
    You should check and be sure it's got a 10base2 (BNC) connector on it
before you start buying more parts to go coax.  A lot of the new network
cards only have 10baseT (RJ45) and unless you want to replace this card
too, you should consider getting the same thing.
    If you just have 2 computers, using 10baseT is actually cheaper and
simpler, since you only need one cable, no T connectors, no terminators.
The RJ45 cables aren't any more expensive then coax. You just have to
remember to get the right wiring on the cable (crossover) and you can plug
the ET cards directly together.  On the other hand, If you have more then 2
computers, it'll cost you more since you'll need a hub.  With a hub, you'd
use the straight-thru cables (not crossover).
    If you're starting from scratch, you might consider going 100baseT,
since the cards aren't that much more expensive any more.  The hub will be
a little more, but the extra speed might be nice.
    As far as educating yourself, you should check the Ethernet HOWTO, the
Hardware HOWTO, and the NET-3 HOWTO for information about configuring
networking and which hardware is supported. There's also a Network
Adminstrator's Guide available from the LDP
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/ldp.html
    I was recently shopping for network cables and found a place called
ConnectPro which had exceptionally good prices.  The (6') coax cables that
National Computer wanted $10 each cost me $2.25 each from these guys.
Likewise, T connectors and terminators were about half or less of Nat
Computer's price. If you're going Cat-5 (RJ45), they' also have those for
good prices too.  They're based in CA and have a bunch of other networking
products as well.  http://www.connectpro.com I don't have anything to do
with them other then this one order. It was delivered quickly without any
snags.


    Have fun!
    Greg

>the network card on the "new" box is a "smc ultra".
>i remember seeing this one in the list of supported hardware.
>i still need a card for my old box.
>does any one has an old card that i could buy or trade for that will work with it?

You should check and be sure it's got a 10base2 (BNC) connector on it before you start buying more parts to go coax.  A lot of the new network cards only have 10baseT (RJ45) and unless you want to replace this card too, you should consider getting the same thing.

If you just have 2 computers, using 10baseT is actually cheaper and simpler, since you only need one cable, no T connectors, no terminators. The RJ45 cables aren't any more expensive then coax. You just have to remember to get the right wiring on the cable (crossover) and you can plug the ET cards directly together.  On the other hand, If you have more then 2 computers, it'll cost you more since you'll need a hub.  With a hub, you'd use the straight-thru cables (not crossover).

If you're starting from scratch, you might consider going 100baseT, since the cards aren't that much more expensive any more.  The hub will be a little more, but the extra speed might be nice.

As far as educating yourself, you should check the Ethernet HOWTO, the Hardware HOWTO, and the NET-3 HOWTO for information about configuring networking and which hardware is supported. There's also a Network Adminstrator's Guide available from the LDP http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/ldp.html

I was recently shopping for network cables and found a place called ConnectPro which had exceptionally good prices.  The (6') coax cables that National Computer wanted $10 each cost me $2.25 each from these guys. Likewise, T connectors and terminators were about half or less of Nat Computer's price. If you're going Cat-5 (RJ45), they' also have those for good prices too.  They're based in CA and have a bunch of other networking products as well.  http://www.connectpro.com I don't have anything to do with them other then this one order. It was delivered quickly without any snags.

 

Have fun!

Greg

 
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phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
 
 
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phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
 

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