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Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Fw: [Lockergnome Penguin Shell] Reviewer's Respite
From: phrostie <pfrostie@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:50:09 -0500
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10 CD's!
and not one cad application?

at least debian and suse will throw in a couple.
RH used to come with a rpm of Varicad.

oh well.

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>   01.10.2002 PenguinREPORT
> Even as a longtime RedHat user, I have to admit to a bit of surprise at
> the bulk of the 7.2 Pro box. Ten CDs and three books of documentation
> make this a hefty distribution, indeed. The number of CDs included in
> these box sets always strikes me as a bit excessive, and RedHat was no
> exception. Then again, there wasn't a DVD, as was included in the Suse
> box. That's some consolation.
> When I opened the box, though, I found what amounts to a pretty standard
> install. Two install discs, two source discs, and lots of third-party
> applications and tools. If you choose to stick with the default install
> from the install discs alone, you end up with an application base that's
> only marginally oversized.
> Let's look at the various application types in the basic install discs
> first:
> Desktop
> Gnome and KDE are available as desktop managers, though RedHat has chosen
> Gnome as the default. If you prefer KDE, you'll need to explicitly select
> it from the install options. Fvwm2 is also available for the true Linux
> hardcore. The Enlightenment and Sawfish window managers are included.
> Office
> AbiWord, KOffice 1.1 and StarOffice 5.2 (on a separate disk) are the
> primary office tools in RedHat 7.2. Also available is Gnumeric, the Gnome
> spreadsheet program. For the size of this install, I was frankly
> surprised at the minimal focus on the office.
> Internet
> Commercial Linux distributions have, for the most part, landed on a
> standard package of Internet applications. Galeon, Mozilla and Netscape
> are the primary browsers. Konqueror, the KDE-based browser is also
> available. Nautilus, the fine Gnome file manager, also has Internet
> browsing capabilities, though they're a bit more limited.
> Reading and sending email is accomplished with KMail, the Mozilla or
> Netscape mail clients, Pine, or Mutt. Receiving and filtering mail is
> handled by Sendmail, formail, procmail, and fetchmail.
> Multimedia
> Sound duties are handled by ALSA, cdrecord and XMMS. Image manipulation
> applications include GIMP and ImageMagick. XMovie is available for
> viewing mpg files.
> Those are just the highlights of the applications you'll find on either
> the downloadable RedHat version or the consumer-oriented purchase
> version. The purchase version, of course, comes with a full set of
> documentation and install guides. This version version also includes a
> Loki Games demo CD, with the games Kohan and Rune. The purchase version
> is prices at $59.95 from the RedHat site, though you'll find it cheaper
> at retail.
> RedHat Professional adds four more CDs - Workstation Applications, Web
> Server Applications, Utilities and Games, and a System Administrator CD.
> Among the workstation applications are IBM's JDK 1.3 port, Intraline's
> Channel One groupware program, Sophos antivirus, and a custom version of
> Yahoo! Messenger. The Web Server Application CD includes ColdFusion and
> JRun demos from Macromedia, and RedHat's own Interchange, a fine
> e-commerce platform. The Games and Utilities CD adds more games than can
> be described, plus the Firestarter firewalling tool. The System
> Administrator CD is a handy wallet-sized disc with tools for fixing
> broken filesystems and support services tracing.
> All in all, the basic two-disk install of RedHat should serve most
> purposes. The application base is well-planned and focused on the average
> home user. At $59.95 or less, the documentation and paid support is worth
> the price. The Professional version adds considerable flexibility to the
> enterprise - the focus of most commercial Linux distros. Personally, I
> could do without the demo games and commercial applications found on two
> of the ten-CD Pro set, but many of the full version apps are more than
> just mere throwaways. They clearly help to further the advance of RedHat
> in the enterprise.
> That, my friends, is the end of the Great Distro Review. There was very
> little along the way that I found startling, short of the advances in
> graphical installers. Even though this go-around is over, I hope to be
> able to do similar reviews as new versions of each major distribution are
> released. It's nice, from a personal perspective, to get back to a stable
> Linux install on my machine. The weekly install-change-install routine
> has been interesting, to say the least. And, who knows? I may even yet
> throw in a surprise review here and there (read: 'something
> Debian-based').
> Tony Steidler-Dennison
>  GnomeTWEAK
> Webmin
> I spent yesterday's GnomeTWEAK talking about my favorite browser-based
> administration tool, linuxconf. Almost as soon as the issue went out, I
> received several emails from readers noting that RedHat has deprecated
> linuxconf. I was shocked. I searched the RedHat site and, sure enough,
> linuxconf has been deprecated as of RedHat 7.1. From the RedHat Support
> site:
> In Red Hat Linux 7, Red Hat made the decision to disable (not compile in)
> several of the linuxconf tools. This decision was made because these
> sub-applications were problematic. Red Hat recommends that you utilize
> alternative graphical configuration tools such as SWAT for Samba (which
> is included in Red Hat Linux 7), or Webmin to configure your system
> graphically. and also have a variety of
> programs listed for administrative purposes.
> In short, linuxconf is quickly moving toward being unsupported by RedHat.
> At the time I read this article, several readers had already made note of
> webmin. I'd seen an earlier version of the program, choosing at that time
> to stick with linuxconf. Last night, I downloaded and installed webmin on
> my box at home. I'll just say this - what a difference a year or two
> makes.
> Webmin provides all the tools found in linuxconf and many more. A quick
> rundown shows that webmin provides browser-based configuration for:
> Access control
> Apache configuration
> Editing cron jobs
> Editing Samba shares
> Modifying printers
> Managing disk partitions
> Configuring Sendmail
> File manager
> DNS entry management
> Editing disk quotas
> Viewing lilo partitions
> I was impressed. This is a truly useful tool, nestled in an easy-to-use
> browser interface. The screens are laid out logically and provide ample
> description of each function. I used it last night to reconfigure
> sendmail exactly as I want it. It all went off without a hitch.
> If you're currently a linuxconf user, you might consider webmin, instead.
> I'm certainly sold on the power of webmin to tweak and configure the
> settings on my machine.
> Send This to a Friend
>  GnomeCORE
> Samba Client
> We've talked about setting up Samba to share files and printers from a
> Linux server to a Windows client. SWAT is an outstanding tool for
> configuring your Samba server. But once you've set up the server, how can
> you be sure it's doing what it's supposed to be doing?
> smbclient is a built-in tool for accessing remote servers to browse, to
> store or retrieve files, or to print. As a command line tool, it's
> extremely flexible and lightweight. It can be used to connect to other
> Samba servers or to Windows NT/2000 servers.
> To connect to a remote server using smbclient, issue the following
> command:     smbclient -L hostname
> You'll be returned a message noting that the ip address, broadcast
> address and netmask have been added. You'll also be returned a password
> prompt. If the server allows browsing, a password will not be required.
> Simply press [enter] and you'll be on the server. If the server is
> configured to prevent browsing, you'll need to enter the password
> assigned you for the server.
> A more elegant way to access the remote server is with the following
> command:
>     smbclient //server/sharename
> This will connect you directly to the share on the remote server, though
> you may still be required to enter a password. Once you're connected,
> you'll be able to put files on the server with put or mput (batch putting
> files) and retrieve with get or mget (batch getting files).
> As I've already mentioned, you can use smbclient to print to remote
> printers, as well. If the remote printer is attached to a Windows NT/2000
> machine, the server only needs to be configured to share the printer with
> other Windows machines via SMB. To make the connection to the remote
> printer, enter the following command:
>     smbclient //server/lp -p
> You're now connected to the SMB share as a printer. Issue the command to
> print a document as:
>     print doctoprint.txt
> You can see how Samba can make the networked environment, whether at home
> or on the job, a much easier place to navigate. Samba and smbclient make
> it possible for two very different OSs to share files and printers
> seamlessly.
> Send This to a Friend
>  GnomeFILE
> Hasciicam [70 KB]
> "Hasciicam makes it possible to have live ASCII video on the Web. It
> captures video from a TV card and renders it into ASCII, formatting the
> output into an HTML page with a refresh tag or in a live ASCII window or
> in a simple text file as well, giving anyone that has a bttv card, a
> Linux box, and a cheap modem line the ability to show a live asciivideo
> feed that can be browseable without any need for a plugin, Java, etc."
> Send This to a Friend
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> Win RPM Checker
> Scribbled by Ismo
> "I am just starting to get to understand Linux, so you can call me a
> newbie and as so many I still use next to a Linux Machine a Windows
> machine.
> "My Windows machine is connected to Internet and so every download comes
> on it's hard drive. I was looking for a way to check and examine the rpm
> files I downloaded on my windows machine.
> "I found the following program: RPM Browser for Windows is a Windows tool
> for Linux users. This FREE utility will allow you to examine the
> structure of RPM files. While binary files aren't too useful from the
> Windows platform, source files can be viewed from within your favorite
> editor.
> "It may be a useful tool for other Lockergnome Penguin Shell readers.
> "I currently am testing Smoothwall and Mandrake security Single Network
> Firewall For Pentium. Two great linux firewall & router products. So I
> can share my Internet connection with others."
> Send This to a Friend
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> Network Configuration Using the Command Line
> For the brave of heart, today's GnomeCLICK is a complete and thorough
> description of the process for setting up basic Linux networking
> configuration via the command line. This link is ready to get you up and
> running as quickly as your brave command line fingers can type. Also
> included are related links to cable modem configuration, dialup
> configuration and RedHat's netcfg.
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